Talks of The Mother - I
vital nightmares, which part of the being goes out of
vitalnot the whole of it for that would produce a cataleptic
state, but a portion of the vital goes out for a stroll. Some
always go to the nastiest places and so have very bad nightsthe
possibilities in these nightly rambles are innumerable. It
may be a very small thing, just a little portion of your being,
but if it is conscious, that is enough to give you a fine
know, when you sleep, the inner beings are not concentrated
upon the body, they go out and become more or less independenta
limited independence, but independence all the sameand
they go to dwell in their own domains. The mind more so, for
it is hardly held within the body, it is only concentrated
but not contained in the body. The vital also goes beyond
the body, but it is more concentrated upon the body. The mind
however is such a supple substance that it is sufficient to
think about a person in order to be with that person, at least
partially, mentally. If you think strongly of a place, a part
of your mind is there; distance, so to say, does not exist.
Of course, to have a mind centralised around the body requires
good training. Few people have a mind with a well-defined
form: it is like clouds which roll, come and go. Even to have
a vital with a form similar to that of your physical body,
an analogous form, it must be very much individualised, very
much centralised. The mind still more; it must be completely
individualised, centralised, organised around the psychic
centre in order to have a definite form.
are people who spend their life organising their mind. I have
known some who had made of their mind a kind of fortress,
a huge construction (I am speaking of people who had uncommon
mental capacities). They had made of their mind quite a big
edifice, very powerful and of such a fixity, with such solid
walls that they had lost all contact with the outer mental
world: they lived completely within their own construction
and all the phenomena of their consciousness were of their
own makingthey had no longer any contact with the outside
mental world. They retained contact with their own vital and
their body, in a way, but all the phenomena of their consciousness
were lodged within their mental constructionthey could
no longer get out of it. Well, this happens very strongly
to people who seek for a spiritual life through the classical
methods of a renunciation of the material consciousness, a
concentration on their inner being and identification with
it. If I gave you the names of some, you would be quite astonished.
They construct for themselves a conception in which one finds
all the gradations of the mind, a construction so solid and
so fixed that they become imprisoned within it and when they
believe they have reached the supreme Truth, they have only
reached the centre of their own mental construction.
they have all the experiences they used to foresee: the experience
of liberation, the experience of going out of the body, the
experience of identification with the Supreme, all, all, but
all of their own making; this has no contact with the universal
reality. Then if someone touches it, if for some reason or
other someone has the power to touch it or simply to make
a breach in one of the walls, at first they are completely
upset, then they come to regard the force that could do this
as a force of terrible destruction, a manifestation of a hostile
force of the worst kind!
is a "mental nightmare"?
there is a chaos in the brain or a local fever, a particular
turmoil in the brain, an overstrain, or if there is a want
of control, you let yourself be possessed by mental formations,
this is what happens most oftenmental formations which,
most often, you yourself have made, besides. And as the control
of the rational, waking consciousness has gone, all this begins
to dance a saraband in the head, with a kind of raging madness;
ideas get entangled, collide, fight, it is truly hallucinating.
Then, unless you have the power to bring a great peace into
your head, a great tranquillity, a very strong and pure light,
well, it is ten times worse than a vital nightmare. The worst
of a vital nightmare consists generally in fighting with an
enemy who wants to kill you, and you strike him terrible blows,
and the blows never hit; you exert all your force, all your
energy, and you do not succeed in touching your adversary.
He is there in front of you, he threatens you, he is going
to strangle you and you gather all your strength, you try
to strike, but nothing touches him. When the struggle is like
that, hand to hand, with a being who throws himself upon you,
it is particularly painful. That is why you are advised not
to go out of the body unless you have the necessary power
or the purity. You see, in this kind of nightmare the force
you want to use is the "memory" of a physical force;
but one may have great physical strength, be a first-class
boxer, and yet be completely powerless in the vital world
because one does not have the necessary vital power. As for
the mental nightmares, that kind of frightful saraband in
the head, one has altogether the impression of going mad.
- The Mother
a dream, I thought I saw pictures of a former ascetic life.
is such a strong suggestion here [in India] that to live the
spiritual life, one must take up the life of a sannyasin,
that this perhaps is the cause of your pictures. In any case,
if it was really a previous life, it was not the last one.
You have surely had intermediary lives, for rarely is a being
born in the same country several times consecutivelyit
would not be very profitable. If it had been the ascetic life
of the time of the first Christians, for instance, you would
have noticed certain details: the different colour of your
skin, a dress, etc..., whereas you probably saw the usual
pictures of Indian life... Everything is possible, of course.
The universe is constituted in such a way that all the possibilities
can be realised there: but, as I said, it is rare for one
to be born several times in the same country unless it be
to acomplish a special work, with a special end in view; and
then it is very rare for one not to know it, for this means
that the psychic being is fully formed and has itself chosen
to come back to the same country to do a special work or to
continue what it had already begun.
have had a previous ascetic life, for the collective suggestion
is very strong here. It is very rare for a person not to think
that to perfect oneself and to live a spiritual life one must
leave the world.
are also symbolic and premonitory dreams, but very rarely
do dreams consist of true memories of past lives, because
for that one must dream in one's psychic consciousness and
there are not many who are capable of this. One dreams in
the mental or vital consciousness but rarely does one dream
in the psychic consciousness. That can happen, but it is rare.
times, there are dreams which one takes for memories, but
they are only symbols: what one sees comes from a mental formation
which is objectified on an inner screen and which enacts a
scene, so to say, in which you are an actor.
in India frequently children are born in a village and they
give, while very young, precise information about the village
where they have lived before, about their parents, etc...
Is this true?
generally these are children who have died as children or
very young and whose previous life had not fully run out.
This can happen.
- The Mother
not the way is easy; the way is long, arduous, dangerous,
difficult. At every step is an ambush, at every turn a pitfall.
A thousand seen or unseen enemies will start up against
thee, terrible in subtlety against thy ignorance, formidable
in power against thy weakness. And when with pain thou hast
destroyed them, other thousands will surge up to take their
is to give you courage, courage to act. You must be vigilant
and must keep your will, whatever happens. If you put the
two things end to end, you have the complete thing.
How can one remain conscious in the
midst of unconsciousness?
One must be vigilant.
And when asleep?
One can remain conscious in sleep, we have already explained
that! One must work.
Then one doesn't sleep!
at all, one sleeps much better, one has a quiet sleep instead
of a restless one. Most people do so many things in their
sleep that they wake up more tired than before. We have already
spoken about this once. Naturally, if you keep yourself from
sleeping, you won't sleep. I always tell those who complain
of not being able to sleep, "Meditate then and you will
end up by sleeping." It is better to fall asleep while
concentrating than "like that", scattered and strewn
without knowing even where one is.
sleep well one must learn how to sleep.
one is physically very tired, it is better not to go to sleep
immediately, otherwise one falls into the inconscient. If
one is very tired, one must stretch out on the bed, relax,
loosen all the nerves one after another until one becomes
like a rumpled cloth in one's bed, as though one had neither
bones nor muscles. When one has done that, the same thing
must be done in the mind. Relax, do not concentrate on any
idea or try to solve a problem or ruminate on impressions,
sensations or emotions you had during the day. All that must
be allowed to drop off quietly: one gives oneself up, one
is indeed like a rag. When you have succeeded in doing this,
there is always a little flame, there that flame never goes
out and you become conscious of it when you have managed this
relaxation. And all of a sudden this little flame rises slowly
into an aspiration for the divine life, the truth, the consciousness
of the Divine, the union with the inner being, it goes higher
and higher, it rises, rises, like that, very gently. Then
everything gathers there, and if at that moment you fall asleep,
you have the best sleep you could possibly have. I guarantee
that if you do this carefully, you are sure to sleep, and
also sure that instead of falling into a dark hole you will
sleep in light, and when you get up in the morning you will
be fresh, fit, content, happy and full of energy for the day.
one is conscious in sleep, does the brain sleep or not?
does the brain ever sleep? When does it sleep? This is of
all things the most difficult. If you succeed in making your
brain sleep, it would be wonderful. How it runs on! That is
vagabondage. It is this I meant when I spoke of relaxation
in the brain. If you do it really well, your brain enters
a silent restfulness and that is wonderful; when you attain
that, five minutes of that and you are quite fresh afterwards,
you can solve a heap of problems.
the brain is always working, why don't we remember what
has happened during the night?
you have not caught the consciousness at its work. And perhaps
because if you remembered what was going on in your brain,
you would be horrified! It is really like a madhouse, all
these ideas which clash, all dancing a saraband in the head!
It is as if one were throwing balls in all directions at once.
So, if you saw that, you would be a bit troubled.
- The Mother