Mother Answers on Physical Consciousness - I
has anyone any questions?
Sweet Mother, here it is written:
"I find it difficult to take these psycho-analysts
at all seriously... "
means that he is laughing at them, simply that.
(The child continues reading)
"when they try to scrutinise spiritual experience
by the flicker of... ''
of their torch-lights". It is a joke; it's to say
that it is a very tiny light of nothing at all and that
they think they can judge spiritual experiences with
this light which is no better than a small torch-light;
it means something that has no strength. It is a joke.
But what did you want to ask?
"spiritual experience by the flicker of their torchlights''...
that's it, it means that they want to judge spiritual
experiences with a very tiny light which is worthless,
which has no strength, a torch-light, a torch-lamp,
it is nothing at all. These people want to explain everything
by the most material and most ordinary phenomena of
human life; and they want to explain everything, including
the creation and all the higher phenomena by the help
of all the small physical habits of the most ordinary
consciousness. It is absolutely ridiculous.
Mother, what is a "super-ego"?
super-ego means an ego that's enlarged, swollen, made
more important, even, than it can be... This whole letter
is full of mockery. Super-ego means an ego that's still
more of an ego than an ordinary ego, something swollen,
something which tries to be very big while being nothing
why an "underground super-ego"?
yes, it means something hidden, that's very low down
in the consciousness, far below, very low down. "Under-ground"
gives the impression of something that's in a great
darkness, lower down, hidden in the shadow: the most
material movementsan ego that tries to become
an important person.
Mother, sometimes we dream of ordinary things, but sometimes
we have dreams which are not...
that's what Sri Aurobindo says, doesn't he? He says
that all dreams are not ordinary dreams, associations
of memories, that there are dreams which are revelations.
He describes all kinds and types of dreams here.
does this depend on the day? If one is more conscious
in the day, one will have dreams of a good kind?
is very difficult to say on what it depends.
It happens that when you need to dream of something,
so that it may enlighten you on a point of your nature,
give you an indication about the effort you must make,
depends perhaps on a consciousness that watches over
everyone; and provided one is just a little open, it
can guide him and give sure indications.
think there is an entire category of dreams which are
absolutely commonplace, useless and simply tiring, which
one can avoid if, before going to sleep, one makes a
little effort of concentration, tries to put himself
in contact with what is best in him, by either an aspiration
or a prayer, and to sleep only after this is done...
even, if one likes, try to meditate and pass quite naturally
from meditation into sleep without even realising it...
Usually there is a whole category of dreams which are
useless, tiring, which prevent you from resting wellall
this might be avoided. And then, if one has truly succeeded
well in his concentration, it is quite possible that
one may have, at night, not exactly dreams but experiences
of which one becomes conscious and which are very useful,
indications, as I just told you, indications about questions
you asked yourself and of which you did not have the
answers; or else a set of circumstances where you ought
to take a decision and don't know what decision to take;
or else some way of being of your own character which
does not show itself to you clearly in the waking consciousnessbecause
you are so accustomed to it that you are not aware of
itbut something that harms your development and
obscures your consciousness, and which appears to you
in a symbolic revelatory dream, and you become clearly
aware of the thing, then you can act upon it.
depends not on what one was during the day, because
this doesn't always have much effect upon the night,
but on the way one has gone to sleep. It is enough just
to have at the moment of sleeping a sincere aspiration
that the night, instead of being a darkening of the
consciousness, may be a help to understand something,
to have an experience; and then, though it doesn't come
always, it has a chance of coming.
is also, you know, a whole lot of activities of the
night which one doesn't remember at all. Sometimes when
one has awakened quite slowly and quietly, when one
hasn't jumped up while awakening, when one wakes up
quite gently, quite slowly, without stirring, one has
a vague impression of something that has happened which
has left an imprint on one's consciousnessyou
have your own way of waking upparticular, sometimes
even strange. And so if you remain very quiet and observe
attentively, without moving, you notice a kind of half-memory
of an activity that took place at night, and if you
remain concentrated on it, still motionless for some
time, suddenly it may come back like that, like something
that appears from behind a veil, and you can get hold
of the tail of a dream. When you hold the tailjust
a little eventwhen you hold the tail, you pull
it, like this, very gently, and it comes. But you must
be very quiet and must not move. And usually these dreams
are very interesting; these activities are very instructive.
does lots and lots of things at night which one doesn't
know, and if one learns, you see, when one becomes conscious,
one can begin to have control. Before being conscious
you have no control at all. But when you begin to be
conscious, you can also begin to have a control. And
then if you have control of your activities of the night,
you can sleep much better; for the fact that when you
wake up you are often at least as tired as when going
to bed and have a feeling of lassitude shows that you
do any number of useless things during the night; you
tire yourself running around in the vital worlds or
moving in the mind in a frantic activity. So when you
get up you feel tired.
once you have the control you can stop that completely...
stop it before going to sleep... make yourself like
a vast sea, that is, it is completely calm and still
and vast... well, you can make your mind like that,
vast, calm, like a flat, motionless surface; then your
sleep is excellent.
course, here too it is a question of people going in
their sleep to places of the vital worlds which are
very bad, and then, when they return, sometimes they
are more than tired, at times they are ill, or they
are absolutely exhausted. This is because they were
in bad places and had a fight. But this surely has something
to do with the state of the consciousness during the
waking hours. If, for example, you have been angry during
the day, you see, there are many chances that at night
you will be in a vital fight for some time. This happens.
That's all? Nothing?
is "the heavenly archetype of the lotus"?
means the primal idea of the lotus.
Each thing that is expressed physically was conceived
somewhere before being realised materially.
There is an entire world which is the world of the fashioners,
where all conceptions are made. And this world is very
high, much higher than all the worlds of the mind; and
from there these formations, these creations, these
types which have been conceived by the fashioners come
down and are expressed in physical realisations. And
there is always a great distance between the perfection
of the idea and what is materialised. Very often the
materialised things are like caricatures in comparison
with the primal idea. This is what he calls the archetype.
This takes place in worlds... not always the same ones,
it depends on the things; but for many things in the
physical, the primal ideas, these archetypes, were in
what Sri Aurobindo calls the Overmind.
there is a still higher domain than this where the origins
are still purer, and if one reaches this, attains this,
one finds the absolutely pure types of what is manifested
upon earth. And then it is very interesting to compare,
to see to what an extent earthly creation is a frightful
distortion. And moreover, it is only when one can reach
these regions and see the reality of things in their
essence that one can work with knowledge to transform
them here; otherwise on what can we take our stand to
conceive a better world, more perfect, more beautiful
than the existing one? It can't be on our imagination
which is itself something very poor and very material.
But if one can enter that consciousness, rise right
up to these higher worlds of creation, then with this
in one's consciousness one can work at making material
things take their real form.
at night if one sees someone dying, and a few months
later one sees again the same person dying, what does
it mean? Is this person in danger?
a dream, one sees a person... and a few months later
one sees him again?...
One sees a person dying and then some months
later one sees him dying a second time, the same person!
He is dead or alive?
is becoming disquieting, my child! I don't know; it
depends absolutely upon the case.
It can be a spiritual death, it can be a vital death,
it can be the death of something in the being which
ought to disappear (and then it means a progress), it
can be a premonition, it can be lots of things. Unless
you have the context of your dream one can't explain
it. But you should have what we could call a jurisprudence
of your dreams. You have never compared the dream with
the events which occur?... for example, hasn't it happened
to youI know it hasthat you see someone
dying and this person really dies? But you don't see
him dying again a second time. If you see the same dream
twice, it means one of two things: either that he has
lost once more another state of being, you see, that
he has entered a vital consciousness or later from this
vital consciousness he has gone out to enter a psychic
consciousness. It can be that. But then there are sure
signs. The dream cannot deceive you, and it cannot be
similar. Or it may be simply that there was something
which was profoundly impressed in the thought, in the
brain, and that in certain circumstances which can have
many causes... yet in certain circumstances... this
impression begins to be active again and gives you the
same dream once more. If it is an identical dream, it
can be this, just a cerebral phenomenon.
dreams are just phenomena of the brain, that is, of
things which go into activity again under some stimulus
or other and bring back the same pictures, sometimes
exactly the same, sometimes with slightly different
associations and connections; so there are differences.
times some dreams are repeated, you know, often dreams
which are lessons or indications, dreams which announce
something to you or want to draw your attention to something
or put you on your guard against something. Very often
it happens that they recur either at brief intervals
or at a certain distance. And usually it means that
the first time the impression was very faint, one doesn't
remember it well. The third time or even after the second,
one has a vague impression already: "Why! This
isn't the first time", when one sees it. Then the
third time it is clear, precise, absolute, and one remembers:
"Ah, I have already seen this thrice!"
these dreams are extremely interesting and give you
precise indications: either about something to be done
or something not to be done, or about precautions to
be taken or perhaps about your relations with someone,
what you should expect to receive from a person, how
you should act towards him or in certain circumstances.
see it is quite a small detail, a very small detail
which recurs in this way; sometimes it comes immediately:
one night, the second night, the third night; sometimes
it takes weeks to recur.
Mother, to profit by one's nights, to have good dreams,
is it necessary that one should have done nothing very
intellectual late at night, or that one should not eat
too late at night or do anything external?
depends on each one; but certainly if you want to sleep
quietly at night, you must not study till just before
sleeping. If you read something which requires concentration,
your head will continue to work and so you won't sleep
well. When the mind continues working one doesn't rest.
ideal, you see, is to enter an integral repose, that
is, immobility in the body, perfect peace in the vital,
absolute silence in the mindand the consciousness
goes out of all activity to enter into Sachchidananda.
If you can do this, then when you wake up you get up
with the feeling of an extraordinary power, a perfect
joy. But it is not very, very easy to do this. It can
be done; this is the ideal condition.
it is not at all like this, and most of the time almost
all the hours of sleep are wasted in some kind of disordered
activities; your body begins to toss about in your bed,
you give kicks, you turn, you start, you turn this way
and that, and then you do this (gesture) and
then this... So you don't rest at all.
the day we have no time, so we are compelled to prepare
the lessons at night.
Oh, there are always fifty thousand reasons for doing
things! You must not at all introduce a moral question
there. You can do your duty, and in an absolutely...
unselfish way, and still it can prevent you from sleeping
all the same.
issues have nothing to do with the inner development.
I am sorry to tell you this, but one goes one way, the
other another. You can make yourself completely ill
by doing something absolutely... how to put it?... unselfish,
you see, which has nothing selfish about it, and you
can be very healthy while being absolutely selfish.
That does not come in the way. It is not this kind of
morality which is effective.
is a great difference between having a moral conscience
and a consciousness which is the expression of truth.
But I must say that it is infinitely more difficult
to have a consciousness which expresses the truth than
to have a moral conscience, because any fool who knows
the social rules and follows them has a moral conscience,
while to have a consciousness of truth one must not
be an idiotin any case, it's the first condition!
is how I have been wasting my nights for more than a
Yes. But don't you think that all these things are the
result of a lack of organisation in your life? One lives
from moment to moment, as things come, anyhow. Or else
one makes some effort of mental organisation which does
not at all correspond to the truth and therefore is
thwarted every minute.
if one organised his life in accordance with a higher
principle of consciousness and without the groping one
usually tries, that is, with a precise indication at
every minute of what is to be done and how it is to
be done, I think that one could so manage that things
don't become awkwardly difficult. It is very good to
be a good teacher, but perhaps it is not absolutely
necessary to correct all the homework just at the time
one is going to bed. I don't know, you see, because
I was never a good teacher, so I never prepared the
exercises for my students, never corrected the homework
of my students. But still, it seems to me this ought
to be quite possible.
instead of choosing one's work very carefully and taking
exactly what one can do and doing it as well as one
can, very often one takes too much. And in this too
much there are many things which are at least partially
useless, which could be considerably reduced, without
harming the result (note that I am not making a general
rule of it, it is only an experience I have); and when
one is very attentive to the inner indication and refuses
to be tossed by the waves that come from outsidethese
waves are of all kinds of movements arising from the
wills of others or from a kind of routine of circumstances
or from oppositions coming from forces which are not
very favourableso, instead of being pushed like
that and moved by these things, if one receives a very
clear, very precise inner indication and follows it
without equivocating, you see, without any hesitation,
a little strictlyindeed, if it doesn't please
others, so much the worse for themwell, it happens
that one becomes in a way the master of circumstances,
that they are organised favourably, and that one does
much more work in much less time.
a way of reducing the time necessary for doing things
by increasing the concentration considerably. Some people
can't do this for long, it tires them; but it's like
weightlifting, isn't it, one can get accustomed to it.
And then, if you can succeed in mastering this power
of concentration and in making your mind absolutely
stillfor this indeed is the first conditionand
if in this quietude you concentrate it, concentrate,
concentrate, concentrate on the point you want to make,
on the work you have to do or the action you have to
perform, well, you can... it comes like a kind of extremely
quiet but all-powerful force of propulsion, and you
go forward with one movement... without hesitation you
can literally do in a quarter of an hour what would
otherwise take one hour. And so this has the great advantage
that it gives you time and that after this, instead
of going from one activity to another, from one agitation
to another, you can relax completely for some minutes
and have a total rest. This gives you time to rest;
and in this repose, naturally, as you are relaxed, all
that could have been a little too tense is relaxed and
put in order, and this puts you back in a condition
in which you are once again able to make another concentration.
That's all? No questions?
Then au revoir, my children.
- The Mother