Mother Answers on Dreams and Visions - IV
often meet in these planes, before they meet upon earth.
They may join there, speak to each other and have all the
relations you can have upon earth. Some know of these relationships,
some do not know. Some, as are indeed most, are unconscious
of the inner being and the inner intercourse, and yet it
happens that when they meet the new face in the outer world,
they find it very familiar, quite well known."
depends very much upon the level of consciousness in one's
inner being. For most people, all that is a mixture in the
mental, vital and physical planes; they are not at all conscious
of what is happening. Some are conscious and usually they
have a similar feeling when they are told: "Why, it was
like that that I knew you, yes, I know you already intimately,
and I have a feeling, but the impression is very vague."
Very few people are developed enough to say: "Well, I
saw you under such and such circumstances." Yet this
then there are those who have learnt a little, who are more
or less occultists or believe in rebirth in a childish way,
believe that it is a tiny person who has put on a physical
robe, that is, a body, and when this garment falls off, it
goes away and puts on another and then another.. like a doll
whose dress is changed. For them it is like that: one changes
one's body, as one changes one's clothes. Some people have
even written books very seriously telling you about all their
lives since they were monkeys! That indeed is absolute childishness.
For in nine hundred and ninety-nine cases out of a thousand,
it is just the tiny psychic formation at the centre of the
being that continues after death; all the rest is dissolved,
goes to pieces, scattered here and there, the individuality
exists no longer. Now, how often in the physical life does
the psychic being take part consciously in what the physical
being does?.. I am not speaking of people who do yoga and
are a little disciplined; I am speaking of average people
who have a psychic capacity in the sense that their psychic
is already sufficiently developed to be able to intervene
in life and guide itsome pass years and years without
the psychic intervening. And they come and tell you in which
country they were born and what their father and mother were
like and the house they lived in, the roof of the church and
the forest that was by the side and all the most casual events
of their life! It is absolutely idiotic, for it is all rubbed
off, these things don't exist any longer; whilst the memory
that one may still have is that of the particular moment in
life when there is a special circumstance, "vital"
moments, so to say, in which the psychic suddenly takes part,
through an inner call or an absolute necessityall of
a sudden the psychic intervenesand that then is engraved
in the psychic memory. When you have the psychic memory you
remember a set of circumstances at one moment of life,
particularly of the inner emotion, of the consciousness that
acted at that moment. And then that passes into the consciousness
along with some associations, with all that was around you,
perhaps a word spoken, a phrase heard; but what was most important
was the state of the soul in which you were: for that indeed
remains very clearly engraved. These are the landmarks of
the psychic life, things that have left a deep impression
and taken part in its formation. Hence when you find your
psychic being in you again constantly, continuously, clearly,
it is things like these that you remember. There may be quite
a few, but they are flashes in one's life, and one cannot
say: "I was such and such a person, I did such and such
a thing, I was called by this name and I was doing this or
that." Or otherwise it would mean that at that moment
(a rare one) there was a combination of circumstances good
enough for one to be able to fix the date or the place, the
country and the age. That can happen.
the psychic takes a greater and greater part, and the larger
does the set of memories grow. And then one can retrace one's
life, but not in all its details. One can say that at certain
moments, "it was like this," or "I was that."
Certain moments, yes, very important moments of a life...
What's necessary is a being wholly identified with the psychic,
one that has organised its whole existence around it, unified
its whole beingall the tiniest parts, all the elements,
all the movements of the being around the psychic centrethat
has made of itself a single being, solely turned to the Divine;
then, if the body falls off, that remains. It is only a completely
formed conscious being that can remember exactly in another
life all that has happened before. It can even pass consciously
from one life to another without losing anything of its consciousness.
How many people upon earth have reached that state?.. Not
many, I believe. And usually they are not in the least inclined
to narrate their adventures.
are people who tell the life of others.
I know. I know many things, I have heard all that one can
hear. They tell stories after stories They look at you and
say: "You were so-and-so in that life, you did such and
such a thing." Well I guarantee, it is not true. For
I know how one can find out where one has seen a person and
what he was and how it isit is not just a little story
that you can write in a book. When you look within a person,
when you have the perception, precisely of the psychic world,
which enables you to recognise the psychic there where it
was, then all of a sudden you can see a scene, an image, a
form, a word; there is a sort of association due to which
even in the present being of this person there still remain
certain sympathies and attractions which come from previous
lives. But, as I was saying, these are "moments"
of life. And so one sees, one can see these various moments,
but one cannot narrate a whole life.
believe Sri Aurobindo has written something very amusing about
this, the number of Caesars one knew, the number of all the
great beings, the Napoleons and all the important personages,
the Shakespeares, all the people whose names have survived
in history! How many are there! There are hundreds of them!
And you hear their stories: "I was this, I was that,
I did this", or in séances the so-called spirits
come and speak to you. A large number of people indulge in
this playing with "spirits", practising automatic
writing and particularly in communicating with spirits. Now,
there are garrulous spirits. They come to many places at the
same time, especially people like Napoleon (I do not know
why they have a partiality for Napoleon), everywhere Napoleon
arrives and tells you extraordinary stories of his life and
usually very contradictory stories and perhaps all at the
same time! These are really very active people. Well, it is
extremely comicand it is impossible.
truth is that these are small vital entities, a class of beings
formed by the decomposition of desires that have persisted
after a man's death and retained their form; of imaginations
that have remained coagulated and try to manifest and reappear.
Sometimes they are small beings of the vital world, not very
well-disposed; as soon as they see people playing at such
things automatic writing, spirit-communication they come and
play. And as they are in a domain from where it is easy to
read human thought, they tell you very well what you have
in your head. They respond to what you expect. You wish to
have a particular answer: they give you the answer even before
you have put the question! They can give you precise details,
they can tell you that such and such a thing happened to you,
that such and such a member of your family.. They know quite
well. They do excellent thought-reading and tell you things
altogether convincingly. "I did not say that I was married
and had three sons and four daughters, how did he know all
that?" Because it was in your head.
memories have a very special character and a wonderful intensity.
But that cannot be narrated in this way They are unforgettable
moments of life when the consciousness is intense, luminous,
strong, active, powerful, and sometimes turning-points in
life that have changed the direction of one's life. But one
will never be able to say what dress one was wearing or the
gentleman with whom one spoke and the neighbours and the kind
of field where one was.
do we forget our dreams?
you do not dream always at the same place. It is not always
the same part of your being that dreams and it is not at the
same place that you dream. If you were in conscious, direct,
continuous communication with all the parts of your being,
you would remember all your dreams. But very few parts of
the being are in communication.
example, you have a dream in the subtle physical, that is
to say, quite close to the physical. Generally, these dreams
occur in the early hours of the morning, that is between four
and five o'clock, at the end of the sleep. If you do not make
a sudden movement when you wake up, if you remain very quiet,
very still and a little attentivequietly attentiveand
concentrated, you will remember them, for the communication
between the subtle physical and the physical is establishedvery
rarely is there no communication.
dreams are mostly forgotten because you have a dream while
in a certain state and then pass into another. For instance,
when you sleep, your body is asleep, your vital is asleep,
but your mind is still active. So your mind begins to have
dreams, that is, its activity is more or less coordinated,
the imagination is very active and you see all kinds of things,
take part in extraordinary happenings... After some time,
all that calms down and the mind also begins to doze. The
vital that was resting wakes up; it comes out of the body,
walks about, goes here and there, does all kinds of things,
reacts, sometimes fights, and finally eats. It does all kinds
of things. The vital is very adventurous. It watches. When
it is heroic it rushes to save people who are in prison or
to destroy enemies or it makes wonderful discoveries. But
this pushes back the whole mental dream very far behind. It
is rubbed off, forgotten: naturally you cannot remember it
because the vital dream takes its place. But if you wake up
suddenly at that moment, you remember it. There are people
who have made the experiment, who have got up at certain fixed
hours of the night and when they wake up suddenly, they do
remember. You must not move brusquely, but awake in the natural
course, then you remember.
a time, the vital having taken a good stroll, needs to rest
also, and so it goes into repose and quietness, quite tired
at the end of all kinds of adventures. Then something else
wakes up. Let us suppose that it is the subtle physical that
goes for a walk. It starts moving and begins wandering, seeing
the rooms and... why, this thing that was there, but it has
come here and that other thing which was in that room is now
in this one, and so on. If you wake up without stirring, you
remember. But this has pushed away far to the back of the
consciousness all the stories of the vital. They are forgotten
and so you cannot recollect your dreams. But if at the time
of waking up you are not in a hurry, you are not obliged to
leave your bed, on the contrary you can remain there as long
as you wish, you need not even open your eyes; you keep your
head exactly where it was and you make yourself like a tranquil
mirror within and concentrate there. You catch just a tiny
end of the tail of your dream. You catch it and start pulling
gently, without stirring in the least. You begin pulling quite
gently, and then first one part comes, a little later another.
You go backward; the last comes up first. Everything goes
backward, slowly, and suddenly the whole dream reappears:
"Ah, there! it was like that." Above all, do not
jump up, do not stir; you repeat the dream to yourself several
timesonce, twiceuntil it becomes clear in all
its details. Once that dream is settled, you continue not
to stir, you try to go further in, and suddenly you catch
the tail of something else. It is more distant, more vague,
but you can still seize it. And here also you hang on, get
hold of it and pull, and you see that everything changes and
you enter another world; all of a sudden you have an extraordinary
adventureit is another dream. You follow the same process.
You repeat the dream to yourself once, twice, until you are
sure of it. You remain very quiet all the time. Then you begin
to penetrate still more deeply into yourself, as though you
were going in very far, very far; and again suddenly you see
a vague form, you have a feeling, a sensation... like a current
of air, a slight breeze, a little breath; and you say, "Well,
well...." It takes a form, it becomes clearand
the third category comes. You must have a lot of time, a lot
of patience, you must be very quiet in your mind and body,
very quiet, and you can tell the story of your whole night
from the end right up to the beginning.
without doing this exercise which is very long and difficult,
in order to recollect a dream, whether it be the last one
or the one in the middle that has made a violent impression
on your being, you must do what I have said when you wake
up: take particular care not even to move your head on the
pillow, remain absolutely still and let the dream return.
people do not have a passage between one state and another,
there is a little gap and so they leap from one to the other;
there is no highway passing through all the states of being
with no break of the consciousness. A small dark hole, and
you do not remember. It is like a precipice across which one
has to extend the consciousness. To build a bridge takes a
very long time; it takes much longer than building a physical
bridge... Very few people want to and know how to do it. They
may have had magnificent activities, they do not remember
them or sometimes only the last, the nearest, the most physical
activity, with an uncoordinated movementdreams having
there are as many different kinds of nights and sleep as there
are different days and activities. There are not many days
that are alike, each day is different. The days are not the
same, the nights are not the same. You and your friends are
doing apparently the same thing, but for each one it is very
different. And each one must have his own procedure.
are two dreams never alike?
all things are different. No two minutes are alike in the
universe and it will be so till the end of the universe, no
two minutes will ever be alike. And men obstinately want to
make rules! One must do this and not that Well! we must let
people please themselves.
could have put to me a very interesting question: "Why
am I fourteen years old today?" Intelligent people will
say: "It is because it is the fourteenth year since you
were born." That is the answer of someone who believes
himself to be very intelligent. But there is another reason.
I shall tell this to you alone I have drowned you all sufficiently
well! Now you must begin to learn swimming!
one finds the truth in things, does it mean that one has
found the Divine?
In everything, whatever it is that is the only way. There
is not a thing that does not carry in itself an eternal truth,
otherwise it could not exist. The universe could not exist
for even a thousandth part of a second if it did not contain
a truth in itself.
one were in contact with the Divine, what would be its effect?
each one a different effect. Because we are in the presence
of a fact: there is a universe, at least there is an earth,
of that we are almost sure, you cannot dispute that, granted?..
Have you ever asked yourself why there is an earth? No! Probably
it was quite wise. Once I spoke to you of that occultist whom
I knew. He was a wise man in his own way. People used to come
and ask him:
of all, why is there a universe? Answer: What is that to
then why is it as it is? Reply: It is as it is. What does
it matter to you?
I do not find it satisfactory.
very good. We begin to touch the practical. To those who do
not find it satisfactory, I would say: There is only one thing
to do, start working for its change, find a way for it to
be otherwise and to be good. Things are as they are. Why are
they so?.. Perhaps one might knowit is not certain.
In any case they are so. The most remarkable thing is that
if you are sincere you will find out why they are so and how
they are so: the cause, the origin and the process. For it
is one single thing. There is what we call the Truth, the
basis of everything; because if this were not there, there
would be nothing. Once you have found the Truth, you find
the origin, you find the means of changing the causehow
it is so, why it is so and the means of changing it. If you
are in contact with the Divine, you have the key to everything.
You know the how, the why and the process to change.
is something to do: to work, it is so interesting. You represent
a small agglomerated mass of substance that makes up yourself.
Enter within and find the key. You have only to go down inside
there. You cannot say: "That is beyond me, it is too
big for me." Go within your little person and you will
find the key which opens all the doors.
- The Mother