is the place of occult power in Yoga?
know and use the subtle forces of the supraphysical
planes is part of the Yoga.
is the meaning of occult endeavour and power?
depends on the context. Usually it would mean power
to use the secret forces of Nature and an endeavour
by means of these forces. But 'occult' may mean something
else in another context.
every Yogi to pass through occult endeavour?
everyone has not the capacity. Those who do not have
it, must wait till it is given to them.
Mother, Sri Aurobindo is speaking about occult endeavour
here and says that those who don't have the capacity
must wait till it is given to them. Can't they get it
That is, if it is latent in someone, it can be developed
by practice. But if one doesn't have occult power, he
may try for fifty years, he won't get anywhere. Everybody
cannot have occult power. It is as though you were asking
whether everybody could be a musician, everybody could
be a painter, everybody could be... Some can, some can't.
It is a question of temperament.
is the difference between occultism and mysticism?
are not at all same thing.
Mysticism is a more or less emotive relation with what
one senses to be a divine powerthat kind of highly
emotional, affective, very intense relation with something
invisible which is or is taken for the Divine. That is
is exactly what he has said: it is the knowledge of invisible
forces and the power to handle them. It is a science.
It is altogether a science. I always compare occultism
with chemistry, for it is the same kind of knowledge as
the knowledge of chemistry for material things. Ii is
a knowledge of invisible forces, their different vibrations,
their interrelations, the combinations which can be made
by bringing them together and the power one can exercise
over them. It is absolutely scientific; and it ought to
be learnt like a science; that is, one cannot practise
occultism as something emotional or something vague and
imprecise. You must work at it as you would do at chemistry,
and learn all the rules or find them if there is nobody
to teach you. But it is at some risk to yourself that
you can find them. There are combinations here as explosive
as certain chemical combinations.
occultism necessary in this life?
this life? That depends upon what one wants to do. You
mean in the life of yoga? Not at all necessary. And besides,
as he says, there are many who are not gifted, who don't
have the faculty. Lots of people, as soon as they have
the least experience, the least experience, for instance
when they just begin to come out of their body, are panic-stricken,
and this indeed is something very difficult to cure. It
can be cured if one has a strong will and a great self-mastery.
But many people are not able to dissociate their states
of being. If they dissociate them, something goes wrong,
their body suffers; while there are others who go out,
take a walk, return. For them this is quite natural. Usually,
those who are interested in thisunless it is only
a kind of mental curiosityare also gifted. They
may not know it but they can be taught. But these things
have to be practised with precaution. For instanceI
am going to give you an example: as soon as one goes out
of the body, no matter how slightly, and even just mentally,
well, that part of the mind which controls the functioning
goes out; and the automatic side of the mind which makes
or produces movements or glandular secretions, that whole
automatic side, you see, remains without the protection
and control of the conscious, thinking part. Well, in
the atmosphere there are always numerous little entities,
very tiny, usually originating from human disintegrations,
which are like physical microbes, some kind of microbes
of the vital. One can't say they are wicked but they are
full of mischief. They like to have a good time and enjoy
themselves at people's expense. So, as soon as they see
that you are not sufficiently protected, they get hold
of the automatic mind and bring upon you all sort of quite
unpleasant thingsas, for example, some people swallow
their tongue when in a trance; this suffocates them if
they don't take care. Others bite their tongue; sometimes
this hurts very badly. All sorts of things like this may
happen to youwhich means that normally you should
never enter into a trance without having somebody nearby
to watch over you, and not only watch just physically
but... watch with the conscious power of preventing these
little entities from getting hold of your nervous centres
which are not protected by the conscious Presence. This
is a general rule. There are greater dangers than that.
When one goes out of the body materiallyand nothing
but a contact of a link remains, you understand, it is
kind of link like a thread of light joining the being
that has gone out with the one that remains behindsif
this link is protected, nothing happens. But if it is
not protected, there may be adverse forces, not only full
of mischief but with much ill-will also, which could come
and cut it. And then, once it is cut, you may try as hard
as you like, but you cannot get back into the body.
after a while. Which means that all this is not at all
a joke. You understand, or just a matter of having fun
or something one can do simply to amuse oneself. It must
be done in the right way and in the required conditions,
and with great care. And then, one thing is absolutely
essential, absolutely: you must not touch this occult
science if you have the least fear in you. For instance,
if in your dreams you meet terrible things and get frightened,
you should not practise occultism. If, on the other hand,
the most frightful dreams you have leave you absolutely
calm, and even at times amused and very much interested,
if you can handle all that and know how to get out of
the difficulty in every circumstance, then that means
you have the ability and can do it. Some people are very
brave warriors in their dreams. When they meet enemies,
they know how to fight; they know not only how to defend
themselves, but also to conquer; they are full of ardour,
energy, courage; these indeed are the true candidates
for occultism. But those who rush back into their body
as fast as a rat into its hole, they should surely not
touch it. And then, you must also have an infinite patience;
because just as it takes many years to learn how to handle
the different chemical substances, just as you have to
work for long periods without getting any visible results
when you want to discover the least thing that's new,
so in occultism you may try for years together and not
have the least experience. And that becomes very monotonous
and hardly interesting; and there is always in man that
kind of physical mind, practical and positive, which keeps
on telling you, " Why are you trying? You see quite
well there is nothing in it, these are all stories people
tell you; why are you working for nothing? You are wasting
your time. There is nothing at all in it, it is all imaginations."
It is very difficult to keep one's conviction and faith
when there is nothing upon which to found them.
- The Mother