morning I asked myself the question, 'is money truly under
Nature's control?' I shall have to see ... Because for me
personally, she always gives everything in abundance.
I was young, I was as poor as a turkey, as poor as could
be! As an artist, I sometimes had to go out in society (as
artists are forced to do). I had lacquered boots that were
cracked ... and I painted them so it wouldn't show! This
is to tell you the state I was inpoor as a turkey.
So one day, in a shop window, I saw a very pretty petticoat
much in fashion then, with lace, ribbons, etc. (It was the
fashion in those days to have long skirts which trailed
on the floor, and I didn't have a petticoat which could
go with such thingsI didn't care, it didn't matter
to me in the least, but since Nature had told me I would
always have everything I needed, I wanted to make an experiment.)
So I said, 'Well, I would very much like to have a petticoat
to go with those skirts.' I got five of them! They came
from every direction!
it is always like that. I never ask for anything, but if
by chance I say to myself, 'Hmm, wouldn't it be nice to
have that,' mountains of them pour in! So last year, I made
an experiment, I told Nature, 'Listen, my little one, you
say that you will collaborate, you told me I would never
lack anything. Well then, to put it on a level of feelings,
it would really be fun, it would give me joy (in the style
of Krishna's joy), to have A LOT of money to do everything
I feel like doing. It's not that I want to increase things
for myself, no; you give me more than I need. But to have
some fun, to be able to give freely, to do things freely,
to spend freelyI am asking you to give me a crore
of rupees for my birthday!
didn't do a thing! Nothing, absolutely nothing: a complete
refusal. Did she refuse or was she unable to? It may be
that ... I always saw that money was under the control of
an asuric force. (I am speaking of currency, 'cash'; I don't
want to do business. When I try to do business, it generally
succeeds very well, but I don't mean that. I am speaking
of cash.) I never asked her that question.
see, this is how it happened: there's this Ganesh ... We
had a meditation (this was more than thirty years ago) in
the room where 'Prosperity' is now distributed. There were
eight or ten of us, I believe. We used to make sentences
with flowers; I arranged the flowers, and each one made
a sentence with the different flowers I had put there. And
one day when the subject of prosperity or wealth came up,
I thought (they always say that Ganesh is the god of money,
of fortune, of the world's wealth), I thought, 'Isn't this
whole story of the god with an elephant trunk merely a lot
of human imagination?' Thereupon, we meditated. And who
should I see walk in and park himself in front of me but
a living being, absolutely alive and luminous, with a trunk
that long ... and smiling! So then, in my meditation, I
said, 'Ah! So it's true that you exist!' - 'Of course I
exist! And you may ask me for whatever you wish, from a
monetary standpoint, of course, and I will give it to you!'
I asked. And for about ten years, it poured in, like this
(gesture of torrents). It was incredible. I would ask, and
at the next Darshan, or a month or several days later, depending,
there it was.
Then the war and all the difficulties came, bringing a tremendous
increase of people and expenditure (the war cost a fortuneanything
at all cost ten times more than before), and suddenly, finished,
nothing more. Not exactly nothing, but a thin little trickle.
And when I asked, it didn't come. So one day, I put the
question to Ganesh through his image (! ), I asked him,
'What about your promise?''I can't do it, it's too
much for me; my means are too limited!' - 'Ah!' I said to
myself (laughing), 'What bad luck!' And I no longer counted
someone even asked Santa Claus! A young Muslim girl who
had a special liking for 'Father Christmas'I don't
know why, as it was not part of her religion! Without saying
a word to me, she called on Santa Claus and told him, 'Mother
doesn't believe in you; you should give Her a gift to prove
to Her that you exist. You can give it to Her for Christmas.'
And it happened! ... She was quite proud.
it only happened like that once. And as for Ganesh, that
was the end of it. So then I asked Nature. It took her a
long time to accept to collaborate. But as for the money,
I shall have to ask her about it; because for me personally,
it is still going on. I think, 'Hmm, wouldn't it be nice
to have a wristwatch like that.' And I get twenty of them!
I say to myself, 'Well, if I had that ...' and I get thirty
of them! Things come in from every side, without my even
uttering a wordI don't even ask, they just come.
first time I came here and spoke with Sri Aurobindo about
what was needed for the Work, he told me (he also wrote
it to me) that for the secure achievement of the Work we
would need three powers: one was the power over health,
the second was the power over government, and the third
was the power over money.
naturally depends upon the sadhana; but even that is not
so sure: there are other factors. As for the second, the
power over government, Sri Aurobindo looked at it, studied
it, considered it very carefully, and finally he told me,
'There is only one way to have that power: it is TO BE
the government. One can influence individuals, one can transmit
the will to them, but their hands are tied. In a government,
there is no one individual, nor even several who is all-powerful
and who can decide things. One must be the government oneself
and give it the desired orientation.'
the last, for money, he told me, 'I still don't know exactly
what it depends on.' Then one day I entered into trance
with this idea in mind, and after a certain journey I came
to a place like a subterranean grotto (which means that
it is in the subconscient, or perhaps even in the inconscient)
which was the source, the place and the power over money.
I was about to enter into this grotto (a kind of inner cave)
when I saw, coiled and upright, an immense serpent, like
an all black python, formidable, as big as a seven-story
house, who said, 'You cannot pass!''Why not? Let me
pass!''Myself, I would let you pass, but if I did,
"they" would immediately destroy me.''Who,
then, is this "they"?''They are the asuric'
powers who rule over money. They have put me here to guard
the entrance, precisely so that you may not enter.''And
what is it that would give one the power to enter?' Then
he told me something like this: 'I heard (that is, he himself
had no special knowledge, but it was something he had heard
from his masters, those who ruled over him), I heard that
he who will have a total power over the human sexual impulses
(not merely in himself, but a universal powerthat
is, a power enabling him to control this everywhere, among
all men) will have the right to enter.' In other words,
these forces would not be able to prevent him from entering.
personal realization is very easy, it is nothing at all;
a personal realization is one thing, but the power to control
it among all menthat is, to control or master such
movements at will, everywhereis quite another. I don't
believe that this ... condition has been fulfilled. If what
the serpent said is true and if this is really what will
vanquish these hostile forces that rule over money, well
then, it has not been fulfilled.
has been fulfilled to a certain extentbut it's negligible.
It is conditional, limited: in one case, it works; in another,
it doesn't. It is quite problematic. And naturally, where
terrestrial things are involved (I don't say universal,
but in any case terrestrial), when it is something involving
the earth, it must be complete; there cannot be any approximations.
it's an affair between the asuras and the human species.
To transform itself is the only solution left to the human
speciesin other words, to tear from the asuric forces
the power of ruling over the human species.
You see, the human species is a part of Nature, but as Sri
Aurobindo has explained, from the moment mind expressed
itself in man, it put him into a relationship with Nature
very different from the relationship all the lower species
have with her. All the lower species right up to man are
completely under the rule of Nature; she makes them do whatever
she wants, and they can do nothing without her consent.
Whereas man begins to act and to live as an equal; not as
an equal in terms of power, but from the standpoint of consciousness
(he is beginning to do so since he has the capacity to study
and to find out Nature's secrets). He is not superior to
her, far from it, but he is on an equal footing. And so
he has acquiredthis is a facthe has acquired
a certain power of independence that he immediately used
to put himself under the influence of the hostile forces,
which are not terrestrial but extra-terrestrial.
am speaking of terrestrial Nature. Through their mental
power, men had the choice and the freedom to make pacts
with these extraterrestrial vital forces. There is a whole
vital world that has nothing to do with the earth, it is
entirely independent or prior to earth's existence, it is
self-existentwell, they have brought that down here!
They have made ... what we see! And such being the case
... This is what terrestrial Nature told me: 'It is beyond
considering all that, Sri Aurobindo came to the conclusion
that only the supramental power ... (Mother brings down
her hands) as he said, will be able to rule over everything.
And when that happens, it will be all overincluding
Nature. For a long time, Nature rebelled (I have written
about it often). She used to say, 'Why are you in such a
hurry? It will be done one day.' But then last year, there
was that extraordinary experience.' And it was because of
that experience that I told her, 'Well, now that we agree,
give me some proof; I am asking you for some proofdo
it for me.' She didn't budge, absolutely nothing.
it is a kind of ... it can hardly be called an intuition,
but a kind of divination of this idea that made people speak
of 'selling one's soul to the devil for money,' of money
being an evil force, which produces this shrinking on the
part of all those who want to lead a spiritual lifebut
as for that, they shrink from everything, not only from
it would not be necessary to have this power over all men,
but in any event, it should be great enough to act upon
the mass. It is likely that once a certain movement has
been mastered to some degree, what the mass does or doesn't
do (this whole human mass that has barely, barely emerged
into even the mental consciousness) will become quite irrelevant.
You see, the mass is still under the great rule of Nature.
I am referring to mental humanity, predominantly mental,
which developed the mind but misused it and immediately
set out on the wrong pathfirst thing.
is nothing to say since the first thing done by the divine
forces which emanated for the Creation was to take the wrong
path! That is the origin, the seed of this marvelous spirit
of independencethe negation of surrender, in
other words. Man said, 'I have the power to think; I will
do with it what I want, and no one has the right to intervene.
I am free, I am an independent being, IN-DE-PEN-DENT! So
that's how things stand: we are all independent beings!
yesterday, in fact, I was looking (with all these mantras
and these prayers and this whole vibration that has descended
into the atmosphere, creating a state of constant calling
in the atmosphere), and I remembered the old movements and
how everything now has changed! I was also thinking of the
old disciplines, one of which is to say, 'I am That.' People
were told to sit in meditation and repeat, 'I am That,'
to reach an identification. And it all seemed to me so obsolete,
so childish, but at the same time a part of the whole. I
looked, and it seemed so absurd to sit in meditation and
say, 'I am That'! 'I,' what is this 'I' who is That; what
is this 'I,' where is it? ... I was trying to find it, and
I saw a tiny, microscopic point (to see it would almost
require some gigantic instrument), a tiny, obscure point
in an im-men-sity of Light, and that little point was the
body. At the same timeit was absolutely simultaneousI
saw the Presence of the Supreme as a very, very, very, VERY
immense Being, within which was 'I' in an attitude of ...
('I' was only a sensation, you see), an attitude ... (gesture
of surrender) like this. There were no limits, yet at the
same time, one felt the joy of being permeated, enveloped
and of being able to widen, widen, widen indefinitelyto
widen the whole being, from the highest consciousness to
the most material consciousness. And then, at the same time,
to look at this body and to see every cell, every atom vibrating
with a divine, radiant Presence with all its Consciousness,
all its Power, all its Will, all its Loveall, all,
reallyand a joy! An extraordinary joy. And one did
not disturb the other, nothing was contradictory and everything
was felt at the same time. That was when I said, 'But truly!
This body had to have the training it has had for more than
seventy years to be able to bear all that without starting
to cry out or dance or leap up or whatever it might be!'
No, it was calm (it was exultant, but it was very calm),
and it remained in control of its movements and its words.
In spite of the fact that it was really living in another
world, it could apparently act normal due to this strenuous
training in self-control by the REASONby the reasonover
the whole being, which has tamed it and given it such a
great cohesive power that I can BE in the experience, I
can LIVE this experience, and at the same time respond with
the most amiable of smiles to the most idiotic questions!
then, it always ends in the same way, by a canticle to the
action of the grace: 'O, Lord! You are truly marvelous!
All the experiences I have needed to pass through You have
given to me, all the things I needed to do to make this
body ready You have made me do, and always with the feeling
that it was You who was making me do it'and with the
universal disapproval of all the right-minded humanity!
- The Mother